Kagan Sumer founded Gorillas, Europe's fastest unicorn. Now he's building a digital factory that spits out companies, with the goal of launching 100,000 of them in three years and giving students ownership as solo entrepreneurs. In this conversation he explains why he thinks now is not the best time to build, how he got stuck in the build trap for eight months and climbed back out, and what Rocket Internet would do today with AI. You also get a look at his digital clone.
Timestamps:
00:00 - The Vibe at the BAD1 Conference
00:45 - Kagans Wow-Moment with AI
01:56 - How Kagan got into AI: just rebuilding Lovable
04:11 - Too much opportunity: the build trap
05:03 - How he got out: one boring project
09:30 - What Rocket Internet would do today with AI
11:16 - The digital factory: 100,000 companies in three years
13:00 - His digital clone that works for him
14:19 - AI's monetization problem and the creator model
Kagan Sumer's Links:
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kagansumer
💻 Nutz Inc.: https://nutz.inc
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